every step of the way, whether or not susan rice, hillary clinton, now how aggressively they're going after this diary, there seems to be a concerted effort to say this was not a preplanned attack. what was their motivation? >> i don't presume to be in their minds. let's be honest. if it turns out there was advanced indication indicating there was a serious terror threat against the benghazi consulate or the ambassador personally, then the security situation, the security that they provided both the establishment, the consulate, and the ambassador, was wholly inadequate. and the accountability for that will rest squarely on the state department from the secretary of state down. >> you visited with him. did he have a lot of security? >> i will tell you, soledad, i was in tripoli. i was concerned about militia presence, myself having been stopped -- my car having been stopped by a militia. when the ambassador arrived at my hotel on the morning of august 29th for breakfast, he had no security. got out of an armored car, walked in, didn't have a single person with him. i raised it with hi